tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post2421923324852263701..comments2024-03-15T11:19:44.509+05:30Comments on NewsWarrior: Why soldiers have a right to be angryNitin A. Gokhalehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04632054380553596730noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-31050988497157754172013-10-01T18:53:06.558+05:302013-10-01T18:53:06.558+05:30commonwealth games..... get army. earthquakes.......commonwealth games..... get army. earthquakes.... get army. floods ....get army. PAY COMMISSION...... FORGET ARMY.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16908678974596153504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-35187172809000490472013-03-31T11:57:00.688+05:302013-03-31T11:57:00.688+05:30Well I guess our first Prime Minister was absolute...Well I guess our first Prime Minister was absolutely right.... This country must not have armed forced because the same kind of a job can be done by police and CPMFs. Guess the time has come that the country must take a decision to wind up the institution of Armed Forces for some basic reasons:-<br />They indulge into corruption in defence purchases.<br />They do not anything productive and are a massive drain on the exchequer.<br />They enjoy some meaningless benifits which are not required to be given in a modern and a democratic peace loving India.<br />and many many more....Sprakashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14009802304072678861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-23788084141041944162013-03-07T07:38:33.009+05:302013-03-07T07:38:33.009+05:30Thanks for this post. However, you have missed th...Thanks for this post. However, you have missed the biggest disparity between the defence and armed police forces. The latter are allowed to resign at any time they choose. Not so the defence forces.<br /><br />Secondly, prior to 1939, two thirds of the foreign service officers were taken from the military and one third from the ICS. The world war created a shortage of military officers and this practice was stopped. It is time such a system is reintroduced.Himlynxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14737123330058603696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-68893023637279207612013-01-03T15:51:05.165+05:302013-01-03T15:51:05.165+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01125716605960577582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-2849393126624746022012-12-13T12:36:57.421+05:302012-12-13T12:36:57.421+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17292627826630798001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-525631599169089392012-08-14T18:47:51.032+05:302012-08-14T18:47:51.032+05:30The MoD and the services are always at war with ea...The MoD and the services are always at war with each other, the former wanting to show the latter "their place" in the bureaucratic heirarchy. This is one good way that the babus in the MoD consistently do by keeping the soldier below his counterparts in other central paramilitary forces. WHO IS BOTHERED ABOUT THE RIGHT OR WRONGDOING OF SUCH BABUS. MANTRIS ARE TOO BUSY CHASING THEIR OWN PERSONAL AGENDA AND DON'T HAVE TIME FOR MINOR ISSUES LIKE SECURITY INTERESTS OF THE COUNTRY OR THE INTERESTS OF THE SOLDIER WHO ARE PRIMARILY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SECURITY OF THE COUNTRY. <br />I would request Mr Gokhale to get in touch with Mr Amir Khan and explore the possiblity of Vande Mataram-II to highlight such and other security related issues. Our people need to be woken out of their slumber.Simranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08586467403798495927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-46677598074814622952012-08-06T09:54:36.931+05:302012-08-06T09:54:36.931+05:30I agree with you absolutely.
I hope corrective ste...I agree with you absolutely.<br />I hope corrective steps are takenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03907725932606061098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-91207371330524076982012-07-27T15:35:37.557+05:302012-07-27T15:35:37.557+05:30I agree with Mr Gokhale that we have deep grouse a...I agree with Mr Gokhale that we have deep grouse against these discrepancies and its TIME it is addressed as my own experience is the uniformed forces are the ultimate glue to keep the indian social fabric together against all odds otherwise coupled with Maoist menace disgruntlement in the Armed forces can put India to rupture. But want to assure everyone that there will be soldiers as in India it is better to be a soldier than to be a Beggar.Parthahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06712916143750543477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-26343286224316803572012-07-24T10:37:25.712+05:302012-07-24T10:37:25.712+05:30very true, treat with dignityvery true, treat with dignityKohlihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11734391310710025684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-32894183812385684082012-07-22T10:18:02.700+05:302012-07-22T10:18:02.700+05:30May be we are missing bigger picture. Refer as und...May be we are missing bigger picture. Refer as under<br /><br />1. The Indian freedom in 1947 was a harbinger for a much bigger change. We saw three very big developments<br /><br />a) First time in the history of the last more than a thousand years, India got a predominantly Hindu Armed Force, as almost all Muslim soldiers of British Indian Armed Forces opted for Pakistan and the British soldiers went back to Britain. <br /><br />b) India became one big country, big enough to be pushed around. <br /><br />c) India embraced democracy<br /><br />2. Was it a just coincidence, or a Divine Intervention for a new beginning? The enemy sensed the trouble. The Islamic and Christian world could not accept the freedom to Hindus. They knew the predominantly Hindu “Indian Armed Forces” will be their biggest hurdle. <br /><br />3. The marginalization of Indian Armed Forces since then can be easily concluded to be a part of some global conspiracy. Following may be relevant<br /><br />a) Indian Military Industrial Complex was never allowed to grow. We were only allowed to import weapons and not allowed to export.<br /><br />b) Indian military requirement was conveniently equated to Pakistan, so that we never prepare to counter bigger threats like China and remain small.<br /><br />c) What ever meager military strength we had, we were stretched to the limits in the name of "Aid to Civil Administration"<br /><br />d) Our Defence budget was kept well below even the minimum of 3% of GDP, especially when our immediate adversaries were spending more than 6% of their GDPs.<br /><br />e) Till date we do not have a proper "National Security Policy" document in place. <br /><br />f) Following figures reflect ratio of soldiers to the population for a few of the major countries. We need to augment our military strength at least three times. Shall we assume some powers want to keep it that way for their strange reasons<br /><br />Country No. of persons per soldier<br /><br />USA 100<br />Pakistan 200<br />Russia 150<br />China 300<br />Sri Lanka 250<br />India 1000<br /><br />g) The serving soldiers have been denied their fundamental right to vote since independence by creating bureaucratic hurdles.<br /><br />4. But bad luck to our enemies. The 9/11 attack on USA was the final game changer in favour of India. Before 9/11, Islamic terrorism was only targeted against India and Israel and rest of the world was not much concerned. The 9/11 attacks have brought in the specter of civilisational Conflict. Two most powerful religions, Islam and Christianity have come face to face, but should we breathe easy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-60789481888725902362012-07-22T09:04:39.017+05:302012-07-22T09:04:39.017+05:30SHOULD A COMMITTEE OF SECRETARIES (BUREAUCRATS) SI...SHOULD A COMMITTEE OF SECRETARIES (BUREAUCRATS) SIT IN JUDGEMENT TO CONSIDER THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE(ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES )FOR ANNA HAZARE AND BABA RAMDEV THE PARLIAMENT IS SUPREME BUT FOR DEFENCE FORCES THE BUREAUCRATS ARE SUPREME--- THIS HAPPENS ONLY IN INDIA !!!!!!SANTOKHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04997726592753557162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-82523008204275150012012-07-21T16:40:04.830+05:302012-07-21T16:40:04.830+05:30I agree that the committee does not have a militar...I agree that the committee does not have a military rep but the service chiefs have pushed for one and hopefully when they meet next (most probably on 24th July) the chiefs will be more forceful.Nitin A. Gokhalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04632054380553596730noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-90936088152848495892012-07-21T13:10:12.409+05:302012-07-21T13:10:12.409+05:30A good piece of write up but will anyone bothered ...A good piece of write up but will anyone bothered about logic in this country.Cmde Harshad Datarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678176031264475761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-84978159839073148842012-07-21T11:08:01.987+05:302012-07-21T11:08:01.987+05:30@yogesh,
The last HPC stated and it has been quot...@yogesh, <br />The last HPC stated and it has been quoted by the UoI/MoD that it cannot agree with the Supreme Court judgment of 8/3/2010 because it will mean a payment of Rs 1623 crores as arrears to the Armed Forces officers. But the Govt paid Rs 50, 000 crores as loan waivers for farmers; Rs 600 to 5000 crores to Kalmadi and his cohorts; Rs 1,76, 000 crores of thereabouts to Karunanidhi and family; Rs 8000 crores to Kingfisher as equity from PSU banks.<br />This HPC has only bureaucrats (people like Expenditure Secy who will not give a penny to the Armed Forces and will be supported by the Def secy) whereas they will gibe NFU just because one IAS officer is promoted as Jt Secy etc. There isn't a single Armed Forces officer on the Committee. So what justice does one expect?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-89656287411993468912012-07-21T06:31:04.453+05:302012-07-21T06:31:04.453+05:30PMO has already instructed MOD to form a committee...PMO has already instructed MOD to form a committee for reviewing all the issues related to pay and allowances of serving and retired defence personnel. However MOD babus under a strategic policy to gradually suppress armed forces in status coupled with their awareness of colonial attitude of serving Army Generals towards their own officers & subordinates , are just sitting on it. PMO desired to announce the outcomes on 15th Aug but till date, no committee has been announced by MOD. I request if Mr Ghokhale can help out the nation and the Army by telecasting the topic on NDTV.yogeshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06231768878205784668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-207603066228137172012-07-20T19:56:34.540+05:302012-07-20T19:56:34.540+05:30It really pains at this callousness. The compariso...It really pains at this callousness. The comparison is also with Central Govt civilian employees. So argument of Col Kurup on comparison with para is not correctrobinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01741719510561783037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4017910838017424020.post-60188829484856413642012-07-20T13:21:40.131+05:302012-07-20T13:21:40.131+05:30Please do not compare Army/Navy/Air Force with CR...Please do not compare Army/Navy/Air Force with CRPF or anyone else. There is absolutely no comparison. Defence Forces does not claim or demand anything just because someone else is treated better. On the other hand others are bidding for everything the defence forces get more than others. Govt should give the Defence Forces what they deserve.Col NR Kuruphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15951097948613585506noreply@blogger.com